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« on: May 29, 2012, 11:23:29 am »
Who he is:
Peikoff, Ayn Rand's legal heir, was initially skeptical of creating the Ayn Rand Institute, but was impressed with the plans presented at the organizational meeting held in New York in fall of 1983, and agreed to go ahead with the project, and to serve as the first chairman of ARI's Board of Directors.[citation needed] The Ayn Rand Institute began operations on February 1, 1985, three years after Rand's death.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ayn_Rand_Institute About Leonard Peikoff At the age of 17, Leonard Peikoff was invited to the home of Ayn Rand, the novelist and Objectivist philosopher. Thus began a friendship that lasted until her death in 1982. Today, Dr. Peikoff is Rand's legal and intellectual heir - and the world's foremost authority on Objectivism.
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http://www.peikoff.com/ Leonard Peikoff retains a cooperative and influential relationship with ARI.[16] In 2006, he remarked that he approved of the work ARI has done[17] and in November 2010 that the executive director "has done a splendid job."[18] Peikoff was a featured speaker at ARI summer conferences in 2007 and 2010.[19] In August, 2010, he demanded and received a change to ARI's board of directors.[20]
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ayn_Rand_Institute What he said: In my judgment, anyone who votes Republican or abstains from voting in this election has no understanding of the practical role of philosophy in man’s actual life—which means that he does not understand the philosophy of Objectivism, except perhaps as a rationalistic system detached from the world. If you hate the Left so much that you feel more comfortable with the Right, you are unwittingly helping to push the U.S. toward disaster, i.e., theocracy, not in 50 years, but, frighteningly, much sooner.
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http://forum.objectivismo.../index.php?showtopic=7870
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Reply #1 on: May 29, 2012, 11:29:13 am »
"...toward disaster, i.e., theocracy, not in 50 years, but, frighteningly, much sooner." Yes, a muslim one where DUmmies will leap for joy as heads literally roll....until they realize that it's their turn.
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Reply #2 on: May 29, 2012, 11:35:09 am »
Man, you've sure got a hard on for Ayn Rand and objectivism, whatever the hell that is. Gotta ask, why do you keep bringing up the topic on a board where few, if any, Objectivists reside? Pretty sure if anyone cared to engage you on it, they would have done so in any of the previous threads. Oh, and I like pie. Not as much as cake, but a lot.
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Reply #3 on: May 29, 2012, 11:53:57 am »
why do you keep bringing up the topic on a board where few, if any, Objectivists reside?
It's just to bring things to a close. This thread answers a question that, unless I'm mistaken, at least one person on CC asked. The answer would be hard to find among several pages of pies. So I started this new thread.
Pretty sure if anyone cared to engage you on it, they would have done so in any of the previous threads.
My previous threads on Objectivism weren't ignored, but drowned in pie. When people see a chance to win a debate, they are likely to engage. If it seems that no win is possible, then they don't engage. That's okay because you can't win them all. However, things aren’t always what they seem to be. What if a loss is accepted in a situation where a win is possible? What if a potentially influential segment of the population (Alan Greenspan used to be and might still be an Objectivist) is abandoned even though it could have been won over?
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Reply #4 on: May 29, 2012, 12:01:15 pm »
Is this going to turn into another thread about pie?
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Mike220
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Reply #5 on: May 29, 2012, 12:11:47 pm »
It's just to bring things to a close. This thread answers a question that, unless I'm mistaken, at least one person on CC asked. The answer would be hard to find among several pages of pies. So I started this new thread.My previous threads on Objectivism weren't ignored, but drowned in pie. When people see a chance to win a debate, they are likely to engage. If it seems that no win is possible, then they don't engage. That's okay because you can't win them all. However, things aren’t always what they seem to be. What if a loss is accepted in a situation where a win is possible? What if a potentially influential segment of the population (Alan Greenspan used to be and might still be an Objectivist) is abandoned even though it could have been won over?
Or potentially, you assumed this board was infested with Objectivists when it's not and you found yourself shouting at an empty room. Unlike DU, people here don't dissemble or tie themselves into knots with polysyllabic pseudo-intellectual words. You got the pie reaction because, judging from the responses I saw, 99% of the people here could care less about the subject. Maybe it's me, but if people don't seem interested in a subject that interests me, I don't keep bringing it up with them. Instead I try to find a group that is interested.
YMMV, of course.
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Reply #6 on: May 29, 2012, 12:22:59 pm »
Is this going to turn into another thread about pie?
Oh, I do hope so. I love pie. I want Adam Sandler to join here so he can talk about pie.
But in the meantime:
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Reply #7 on: May 29, 2012, 12:30:08 pm »
Your fascination with Objectivists is mystifying. Although sort of in the Libertarian/right-anarchist camp, they are also militant Atheists and therefore an all-around sideshow that nobody takes seriously or really gives a shit about, one way or the other. Until your arrival, I don't believe I remember anyone ever bringing them up as a relevant issue to anything, although occasionally someone would make a reference to Rand (Generally, to characters or situations in Atlas Shrugged , but not with any intent to seriously propound Objectivism. Doctor Lennie was obviously focused more on his Atheism (As I recall, another charming feature of Objectivists) here than on anything else, to the point of failing to even analyze the make-up of the GOP to see if his scenario was realistic, which it isn't. It sounds like he read Heinlein's Revolt in 2100 as a kid and it stunted the development of his imagination. And no, it doesn't take any imagination at all to earn a doctorate in our education system. I find militant Atheists to be amusing (When they aren't just being pains in the ass to everyone else) because they think they are intellectually superior to militant believers, when in reality both of them base their positions entirely on blind faith...faith that there is a higher power in the caser of the believers, faith that there isn't one in the case of the Atheists. If anything the believers have an edge self-awareness or intellectual honesty, because at least they admit their position is a matter of faith.
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Reply #8 on: May 29, 2012, 12:40:15 pm »
Your fascination with Objectivists is mystifying...
Obviously his Objectivist bent is something he thinks we ought to know about and he apparently sees some fatal flaw in it.
I have this gnawing sensation that he's trying to hang the label on us with a pink bow that reads, "And you're so stupid you don't even know it!"
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Reply #9 on: May 29, 2012, 04:28:23 pm »
Well, I think our problem is solved. Boojatta just revealed a huge board of liberal philosophers, objectionists all.
Boo (I can call you Boo, right? Its not exactly a term of respect, but then I don't really respect you.)
Boo, join up there and you will be much happier. (they don't serve pie there either).
You will make lots of self important friends and discuss things that no one else seems to care for.
Its a perfect match! A shallow pretentious board for a shallow pretentious Boo.
So now we found it, GET LOST! It should be easy cause no one really likes you here.
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Leonard Peikoff is also the father of Kira Peikoff who earlier this year released her debut novel which is rather terrible. This generation's Handmaid's Tale.
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"Boojatta"- Pashtun for "cow pie" Hey, **** pie, don't you get it?
We're not Objectivists.
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Your other objectivist thread was drowned in pie ? In codebreaking, that would be called a breakthrough. Go with it, before the number 57 catches up with you.
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Is this going to turn into another thread about pie?
Pie?
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Boojitta, or however you spell your name (I don't really care, really), I dug this up expressly for you:
The above video makes twice as much sense as any of your two (or ten) posts combined. The downside is that it is only ten hours long, while we've had to put up with you for the last several
days.
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