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« on: March 15, 2010, 02:14:27 pm » |
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That's according to the outside of the 2010 Obama White House Census envelope I received today. They cite Title 13 of the U.S. Code, however Article 1, Section 2 of the supreme law of the land, otherwise known as the U.S. Constitution, the only information I am required to provide is the number of people living in my household. They have no right to invade my family's privacy.
It's also interesting to note that in the section about who NOT to count in your household, they make no mention of people without legal citizenship.
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« Reply #1 on: March 15, 2010, 02:16:30 pm » |
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They have made it clear they want to count illegals as if they were citizens
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« Reply #2 on: March 15, 2010, 02:28:21 pm » |
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Really seems like much ado about nothing. They've obviously already got your name and address, given that much to start with for 95% of Americans, they can get about a hundred times more info than they're actually asking for from open sources on the innerwebz with a minimal amount of effort, if they were really trying to pry into your life.
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« Reply #3 on: March 15, 2010, 05:47:33 pm » |
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Really seems like much ado about nothing. They've obviously already got your name and address, given that much to start with for 95% of Americans, they can get about a hundred times more info than they're actually asking for from open sources on the innerwebz with a minimal amount of effort, if they were really trying to pry into your life.
True, however, that doesn't mean that we have to make it easy for them......nor should we provide more than Constitutionally required...... Largely they turn the data around and sell it to third parties for advertising and marketing purposes......if they want more, they can dig for it.... doc |
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« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2010, 05:50:43 pm » |
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The one thing that really got me was the Race section. Last time I checked, my race was Caucasian. Not White. White is a color, not a race.
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« Reply #5 on: March 15, 2010, 05:55:17 pm » |
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The one thing that really got me was the Race section. Last time I checked, my race was Caucasian. Not White. White is a color, not a race.
I checked "Other", and wrote in "American"...... doc |
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« Reply #6 on: March 15, 2010, 06:03:49 pm » |
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The one thing that really got me was the Race section. Last time I checked, my race was Caucasian. Not White. White is a color, not a race.
That is weird |
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« Reply #7 on: March 15, 2010, 06:10:52 pm » |
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I checked "Other", and wrote in "American"......
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« Reply #8 on: March 15, 2010, 11:16:37 pm » |
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I checked other and wrote in human. Hey they asked what race, not color or ethnicity? I also did not give them my phone number. I guess they will come knocking?
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« Reply #9 on: March 16, 2010, 12:29:14 am » |
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Well, if they want my skin color, I don't know how to describe it...off white, brown egg shell white, dirty pink, blotchie tan ......???????????
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« Reply #10 on: March 16, 2010, 02:07:30 am » |
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The one thing that really got me was the Race section. Last time I checked, my race was Caucasian. Not White. White is a color, not a race.
How many people come from the Caucasus mountains anyway? |
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« Reply #11 on: March 16, 2010, 04:36:14 am » |
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How many people come from the Caucasus mountains anyway?
People understand color..... Wonder how many these days don't even know that they are Caucasian? In the CE class I took a week or so ago....one of the things we discussed is that under the Fair Housing Act....race and color are two separate entities. For instance....African does not mean black. Or, how black is black? Obama is a perfect example. |
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« Reply #12 on: March 16, 2010, 05:10:02 am » |
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People understand color.....
Wonder how many these days don't even know that they are Caucasian?
In the CE class I took a week or so ago....one of the things we discussed is that under the Fair Housing Act....race and color are two separate entities. For instance....African does not mean black. Or, how black is black? Obama is a perfect example.
That is my whole gripe. Which is it? Race, or Color? How come our option is white, but the reds, yellows, browns, and blacks don't get a color too??? I am just being difficult.  |
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« Reply #13 on: March 16, 2010, 05:39:18 am » |
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That is my whole gripe. Which is it? Race, or Color? How come our option is white, but the reds, yellows, browns, and blacks don't get a color too??? I am just being difficult. No you aren't. Your point was part of our discussion also. Speaking from the standpoint of the Fair Housing Act it has been amended many times over the years. Basically, people cannot be discriminated with regard to race, color, religion, sex, handicap, familial status or national origin. It has been amended to "race, color and national origin" because over the years....each term has altered it's meaning. First it was just race....because it was a white or black issue after slavery ended. Then color was added....because it wasn't such a white/black issue. Asians and Native American Indians were being discriminated against. Then national origin was added....in order to make sure if one didn't get it (understand that people cannot be discriminated against) as far as race or color was considered...then maybe national origin would clarify. Just for clarification....sex does not refer to hetero/homosexuality...it refers to male/female. At this point in time....sexual preference has not yet been explicitly specified, though that is probably going to happen. It is sort of covered under familial status - what constitutes a family unit....but not gender specific. |
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Just hand over the chocolate...back away slowly...far away....and you won't get hurt....
Save the Earth... it's the only planet with chocolate.
"My therapist told me the way to achieve true inner peace is to finish what I start. So far I've finished two bags of M&M's and a chocolate cake. I feel better already." – Dave Barry
A balanced diet is chocolate in both hands.
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« Reply #14 on: March 16, 2010, 05:42:18 am » |
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No you aren't.
Your point was part of our discussion also.
Speaking from the standpoint of the Fair Housing Act it has been amended many times over the years.
Basically, people cannot be discriminated with regard to race, color, religion, sex, handicap, familial status or national origin.
It has been amended to "race, color and national origin" because over the years....each term has altered it's meaning.
First it was just race....because it was a white or black issue after slavery ended.
Then color was added....because it wasn't such a white/black issue. Asians and Native American Indians were being discriminated against.
Then national origin was added....in order to make sure if one didn't get it (understand that people cannot be discriminated against) as far as race or color was considered...then maybe national origin would clarify.
Just for clarification....sex does not refer to hetero/homosexuality...it refers to male/female.
At this point in time....sexual preference has not yet been explicitly specified, though that is probably going to happen. It is sort of covered under familial status - what constitutes a family unit....but not gender specific.
I wasn't necessarily meaning I was being difficult here, per se. I have been "difficult" about this for a whole long time. Ask my Mama.  The whole thing is just so darned stupid. |
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